Non lo so d'avvero che cosa state cercando di essere realizzato.
Volevate che logo attuale (caratteri, forma) rimangono uguali, come
si è capito dal brief, volevate solo che si crea un sfondo con il colori
italiani e aggiungere la data di inizio della attività.
Non ci sono tante possibilità di creare qualcosa di nuovo e buono aggiungendo
solo quelle due cose adattarlo al logo esistente. Comunque io ci ho provato
e ho mandato 13 soluzioni. Ogni soluzione conteneva da3 a 4 versioni che totale
supera 40 esempi di logo e nessuno non era al vostro gradimento. Poso capire e rispetto
"gusti sono gusti", (che in certi casi certi brand hanno superati se stesso) come quello che
hanno scelto e come era contrario di quello che era scritto nel brief.
Non vedo ora di vedere che cosa avete scelto e naturalmente do il complimenti sinceri al vincitore,
perche quello non si discute "MAI", perche creatore scelto a tutti meriti e complimenti, per primo
perché ha indovinato quello che voi cercate (che non è da poco) e come tutti noi lavora a ceca
senza avere alcun dialogo con il brand. Invece se scegliete una soluzione che davvero è buona
avrete miei complimenti (penso anche dal'altri creatori), se invece scegliete una soluzione che per
poco si differenza da altre "bocciate" e se non rispetta il descrizione del brief, allora vi mando un
enorme pollice in giù.
Perché se gia successo che avevano (certi Brand) scelto una soluzione e altra non anche se differenza
è piccolissima.
Quello ci sta, uno sceglie quella che gli piace di più, ma che quella altra è stata bocciata è quello non si
capisce e non ci sta.
Dal inizio di questo brief ho visto che qualcosa non funziona come dovrebbe.
Si come non si doveva cambiare logo attuale (ne forma ne carattere), perche non hanno subito inserito il
logo vettoriale nel allegati. Sulla mia sollecitazione hanno deciso di darci il logo vettoriale (per facilitare lavoro).
Ma non è finita li, hanno cominciato chiedere le e-mail del creatori, così gli inviano il logo vettoriale.
Loro decisione, non ce nulla di male, ma dovete dire che e un può strana come decisione, anche qui ho scritto
nel commenti, "perche non inserite logo nel allegati così tutti e da subito possono usufruire del vettoriale che cosi
singolarmente, una ad uno", nessuno non mi ha risposto. E se per caso (a loro non potevano quello sapere)
parteciperanno solo la metta di 17.000 iscritti, come lo facevano mandare e sopra tutto, quando a tutti quelli
che partecipano alla gara. Meno male anche BootB si è accorta di questa anomalia e inserito logo vettoriale
nel allegati, come doveva essere dal principio.
Io ho gia tante volte scritto e ho detto che esistono il problemi e che si devono risolvere, ho avuto il silenzio.
Come primo, noi si lavora per pochi soldi ( non mi sono mai lamentato per questo), uno se non gli piace non
partecipa e basta. Ma problema è quello, che aceti di lavorare per pochi soldi (che non è sicuro che vinci),
lavori anche per confronti con altri creatori di tutto il mondo (una delle caratteristiche positive di BootB) ma
che certi brand descrivono (nel brief) più quello di cosa si occupa loro Brand che quello che dobbiamo fare noi.
Poi quando chiedi logicamente nel "Commenti" le spiegazioni dettagliate devi aspettare giorni finche qualcuno
si decide a rispondere. Questo problema non toccava tutti brand, ci sono brand che sono
stati bravi che non dovevi chiedergli nulla, perché era tutto chiaro, e anche se non sei stato il vincitore, non importa
tanto, avevi soddisfazione di creare anche per te steso.
Ultima cosa, che certi brand o chi per loro, si informano bene del regolamento e di come si vota e il resto. Se noi
abbiamo il termine di inviare lavori fino a data prevista e in orario esatto 23:59 GMT , che anche loro hanno data
e orario esatto di scegliere, se non riescano perdano soldi e non prendono nessuna creazione. Io lo capisco che
ci vuole tempo di decidere il migliore soluzione, ma anche per noi vale stesa cosa, non è che noi troviamo gia
pronte le soluzioni e che lavoriamo con la difficolta che ho già descritto qui sopra.
Questo è stato solo il mio contributo per provare a cambiare certe cose. Se lavoro onestamente e mando il miei lavori
posso anche dire quello che secondo me (leggendo il commenti) anche secondo tanti altri non va.
Saluto tutti creatori di BootB e vi auguro felice feste e buon anno nuovo e che sarà meglio del 2009.
Denny - Denarts
Re: ????????+?...
17.12.09 10:27 GMT
I do not know what you're looking for true to be realized.
You wanted that current logo (characters, shape) remain the same as
it became clear from the brief, only that it wanted to create a background with the colors
Italian and add the date of commencement of business.
There are many possibilities to create something new and good to add
only those two things fit the existing logo. Anyway I tried
and I sent 13 solutions. Each solution contained 3 to 4 versions total
over 40 examples of logo and no one was not to your liking. Poso understand and respect
"Tastes are tastes," (which in some cases certain brands have surpassed itself) like that
have chosen and how it was contrary to what was written in brief.
I can not wait hours to see what you have chosen and of course I give sincere congratulations to the winner,
why not argue that "never", because the Creator chose to everyone and deserves congratulations, first
he has guessed what you seek (which is not insignificant) and like all of us working in czech
without having any dialogue with the brand. Instead, if you choose a solution that is really good
you have my congratulations (I think even dal'altri creators), but if you choose a solution that
little different from other "mouth" and if it complies with the brief description, then send you a
huge thumbs down.
Because if that had already happened (some Brand) chose a solution and not the other even if the difference
is very small.
That there is, one chooses what he likes more, but other than that was rejected is not
understand and there is.
From the beginning of this briefing I have seen that something is not working as it should.
He did not have to change as current logo (no form and no character), because they did not immediately inserted
Vector logo in the annexes. On my stress have decided to give us the vector logo (to facilitate work).
But not over them, they began to ask the creators of e-mail, so send the vector logo.
Their decision, there is not anything wrong, but you can say it is a strange decision as, again, I wrote
the comments, "because not included in the attached logo so all can now use the vector so
individually, one by one ", nobody answered me. And if (they could not know that)
participate only put of 17,000 members, as they did send and above all, when all those
participating in the race. Luckily BootB also became aware of this anomaly and inserted vector logo
in the annexes, as it should be the beginning.
I already wrote many times and I said that there is a problem and that we must solve, I got silence.
For starters, we are working for little money (I have never complained about this), if one does not like not
participate and all. But problem is that vinegar to work for little money (which is not guaranteed to win)
work for comparisons with other creators from around the world (one of the positive characteristics of BootB) but
that certain brands describe (in brief) more than what their brand is concerned that what we do ourselves.
Then when you ask logically in the "Comments" detailed explanations you need to wait days until someone
decides to respond. This problem affects all brands, there are brands that are
been good you should not ask him anything, because everything was clear, and even if you were not the winner, no matter
so, you were pleased to create for you lying.
Last thing, that certain brand or who for them, well informed of the regulation and how we vote and the rest. If we
we have the time to send jobs up to date and exact time 23:59 GMT, that they too have given
and exact time to choose, if they can not lose money and not take any creation. I understand that
it takes time to decide the best solution, but also for us is lying thing, is not that we are already
ready solutions and we work with the difficulties I have described above.
That was just my contribution to try to change things. If I work honestly and I send my work
I can also say what I think (reading the comments) even by many others wrong.
I greet all creators BootB and wish you happy holidays and Happy New Year and will be better in 2009.
Denny - Denarts
You wanted that current logo (characters, shape) remain the same as
it became clear from the brief, only that it wanted to create a background with the colors
Italian and add the date of commencement of business.
There are many possibilities to create something new and good to add
only those two things fit the existing logo. Anyway I tried
and I sent 13 solutions. Each solution contained 3 to 4 versions total
over 40 examples of logo and no one was not to your liking. Poso understand and respect
"Tastes are tastes," (which in some cases certain brands have surpassed itself) like that
have chosen and how it was contrary to what was written in brief.
I can not wait hours to see what you have chosen and of course I give sincere congratulations to the winner,
why not argue that "never", because the Creator chose to everyone and deserves congratulations, first
he has guessed what you seek (which is not insignificant) and like all of us working in czech
without having any dialogue with the brand. Instead, if you choose a solution that is really good
you have my congratulations (I think even dal'altri creators), but if you choose a solution that
little different from other "mouth" and if it complies with the brief description, then send you a
huge thumbs down.
Because if that had already happened (some Brand) chose a solution and not the other even if the difference
is very small.
That there is, one chooses what he likes more, but other than that was rejected is not
understand and there is.
From the beginning of this briefing I have seen that something is not working as it should.
He did not have to change as current logo (no form and no character), because they did not immediately inserted
Vector logo in the annexes. On my stress have decided to give us the vector logo (to facilitate work).
But not over them, they began to ask the creators of e-mail, so send the vector logo.
Their decision, there is not anything wrong, but you can say it is a strange decision as, again, I wrote
the comments, "because not included in the attached logo so all can now use the vector so
individually, one by one ", nobody answered me. And if (they could not know that)
participate only put of 17,000 members, as they did send and above all, when all those
participating in the race. Luckily BootB also became aware of this anomaly and inserted vector logo
in the annexes, as it should be the beginning.
I already wrote many times and I said that there is a problem and that we must solve, I got silence.
For starters, we are working for little money (I have never complained about this), if one does not like not
participate and all. But problem is that vinegar to work for little money (which is not guaranteed to win)
work for comparisons with other creators from around the world (one of the positive characteristics of BootB) but
that certain brands describe (in brief) more than what their brand is concerned that what we do ourselves.
Then when you ask logically in the "Comments" detailed explanations you need to wait days until someone
decides to respond. This problem affects all brands, there are brands that are
been good you should not ask him anything, because everything was clear, and even if you were not the winner, no matter
so, you were pleased to create for you lying.
Last thing, that certain brand or who for them, well informed of the regulation and how we vote and the rest. If we
we have the time to send jobs up to date and exact time 23:59 GMT, that they too have given
and exact time to choose, if they can not lose money and not take any creation. I understand that
it takes time to decide the best solution, but also for us is lying thing, is not that we are already
ready solutions and we work with the difficulties I have described above.
That was just my contribution to try to change things. If I work honestly and I send my work
I can also say what I think (reading the comments) even by many others wrong.
I greet all creators BootB and wish you happy holidays and Happy New Year and will be better in 2009.
Denny - Denarts
I skipped "the current arrow and lettering must be kept. " part of brief and I did 2 designs which counts as trashes. I hope you won't do my mistake :)
sono andato "fuori tema" o non piaceva il concetto delle mie proposte?
Si potrebbe sapere quali ulteriori miglioramenti per le solzuioni 109 e 108 per lampo? Grazie.
ATTENZIONE!
Per favore notate che il LOGO in VETTORIALE è da adesso allegato al Brief.
Per favore notate che il LOGO in VETTORIALE è da adesso allegato al Brief.
